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Post by Lunapocalypse on Dec 7, 2008 2:19:42 GMT -5
*Sigh* Here you go then. Sherry's confirmation: LinkSecond last paragraph. Jills Gravestone: LinkWhich was in the most recent teaser Capcom released I believe. EDIT> Note that there have been heaps of online articles stating Sherry's confirmation, this is just the one that was linked in Wikipedia. Even my Australian mag just brought out a massive article on RE5 with all of the information brought out bottle up into one.
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Post by Aria of Souls on Dec 7, 2008 2:39:08 GMT -5
Yah I looked on wiki's and such and it is said that Sherry like I presumed had been imprisoned. After the military rescue in which Leon and Sherry left, it was a man who had given Sherry to Wesker, From the information in the first link it only confirms Wesker and Sherry, the image of Jill being dead, only shows a grave stone... Ever heard of fake death? From the image it shows shes dead, but I seriously doubt it being her true death. She is most likely in hiding, which she probably wasn't found by Umbrella, I am entirely convinced it's Sherry, and not Jill, but I have a really large feeling Jill will be in RE5, just not as the girl. I looked closely at her grave as well... There is no "cause of death" on it... I have a huge feeling Sherry is the girl in the tube, but Jill herself is not dead, but will play a role either in this RE5, or in a future one (assuming there is one), I have been researching this topic a bit and checked things out, I through the use of zoom's/etc have found the info on the grave stone. The stone has this info only:
In loving memory of our dear
B.S.A.A.
Jill Valentine
1974 - 2006 Sorry it's a bit hard to read/see =P Oh and thanks for the links and such.
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Post by Lunapocalypse on Dec 7, 2008 5:04:41 GMT -5
Ever heard of fake death? You seriously need to go back to some real old RE5 conversations in this board and read them. I hope my cause of death is never plastered on my grave stone, I mean if Jills was filed under 'Devoured by Zombie' or 'Decapitated by Hunter' that'd definitely demoralize the people who loved her. Allow me to quote myself. "We last met at the Spencer Estate? Correct?" Wesker is either speaking to Barry or Jill, Chris and Wesker bumped into each other on Rockfort and Wesker and Rebecca's paths never crossed. This is a pretty obvious stab that Jill is still alive which has done well in convincing me she's the female in the suspended watery animation. There is the possibility that it's Barry though, or Wesker is growing forgetful and mucks up when he bumps into Chris again (Unlikely, albeit it would be a funny choice). Then there's the whole facial issue I was going on about earlier which I won't repeat. But yeah, my opinion is it's Jill in the water, downpat.
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Post by Aria of Souls on Dec 7, 2008 18:56:34 GMT -5
"We last met at the Spencer Estate? Correct?" Wesker is either speaking to Barry or Jill, Chris and Wesker bumped into each other on Rockfort and Wesker and Rebecca's paths never crossed. This is a pretty obvious stab that Jill is still alive which has done well in convincing me she's the female in the suspended watery animation. There is the possibility that it's Barry though, or Wesker is growing forgetful and mucks up when he bumps into Chris again (Unlikely, albeit it would be a funny choice). Then there's the whole facial issue I was going on about earlier which I won't repeat. But yeah, my opinion is it's Jill in the water, downpat. Just to tell you Wesker and Rebecca did meet lol, just not formally, lol "Just like this" *shoots rebecca* XD... Maybe he's talking to Jill or Barry, or maybe just being forgetful of Chirs lol, or (Extremely unlikely) Rebecca. I'd have to say maybe Jill or Barry, but I have seen moments in Resident Evil where things go stupid and they forget things that already happened, so who knows. I don't believe Jill is dead, thats one thing I have to say, unless this is the last RE game Jill won't be "dead" in the sense of being dead. Plus question... who is the person in the robe? 0.0... After watching some vids well I've been looking, when he says the spencer estate comment thing, hes in the area where it shows Chirs and Sheva fighting him, maybe Wesker is just forgetting? Maybe he's calling the Antarctic facility Spencer Estate? Afterall the antarctic facilities main hall is a replica of the spencer estates main hall lol...
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Post by Lunapocalypse on Dec 8, 2008 3:43:13 GMT -5
I've never witnessed any mistakes made by Capcom on the Resident Evil series? And I don't recall Rebecca or Wesker bumping into each other either. I mean, perhaps Wesker saw Rebecca and Billy on the survaillance system when he was with Birkin; then again, that was in the Training Facility and not the Spencer Estate. You'll notice when Wesker says "We last met in the Spencer Estate", he's walking down a stone staircase or something or rather, different to the metal surroundings as a whole. Another thing that is almost out of shot is the enigmatic female who we're yet to learn about. Whether Wesker is talking to her or someone else is slightly beyond me, I doubt he's talking to her but I don't think that scene and the Sheva and Chris fight scene are in the same setting Something else I noticed was the enigmatic female being slightly seductive to Wesker later on in the same trailer, Weskers face is out of shot so you don't actually know it's him unless you remember the interesting suit he's wearing in the trailer. Don't know a lot about the person in the robe with the crazy weird nose mask, I like to think that it's HUNK ^.^ but the posture is similar to that of a womans from another trailer I saw. :/
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Post by programreaper on Dec 8, 2008 18:15:29 GMT -5
In the newest trailer (and this was pointed out to me by another video) there is a woman's face shown very briefly, but it isn't Sheva or Excella (think that's her name), some poeple think it's Jill. But about Jill being the girl in the "test tube", I never thought about that before, and I honestly think it is a very interesting, and plausible idea. Either way, Jill isn't dead, and Capcom has raised a ton more questions than answers with their trailers. And about the girl in the Red Dress and TTG, Red Dress has brown eyes, or at least they look brown to me.
And about Wesker telling someone they last met at the Spencer Estate, four theories. One: It is Jill. Two: Barry. Three: Rebecca. Wesker did meet Rebecca. In Chris's scenario, which is canon, she went into the lab with Chris and Wesker shot her. Four: Wesker is going crazy now that he has been infected with his uber virus for a few years. That or he's gone "mad with power".
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Post by Aria of Souls on Dec 8, 2008 18:55:51 GMT -5
yah once you get to the point where you think you can play as God you've gone crazy XD, And yah like programreaper said, Chris' Scenario, Rebecca gets shot =P, They meet kinda lol... And yah the woman with wesker is Excella or something, she is not Jill though. The person in the mask and such with the weird nose thingy, well I feel that may in fact be Jill, It's a woman which has been confirmed or a man with a female voice lol... I'd have to bring the conclusion the mask person is female, and whom I think is Jill in disguise. but yah truthfully Wesker I think was talking to Jill whom he later finds is indeed the masked woman, also look at the body and such =P, either it's a woman or a feminine guy XD... Yah so continuing that I feel that the woman in the test tube is Sherry, who was infected with the G-Virus, but it was left dormant, possibly Wesker experimented on her for those years, which would be something you could expect. So this is what I think. You also see the masked woman driving Chris in a scene, this is a realistic reason for some random person to be driving Chris, also shes an Ally I think, so Jill is in high chances for this. I'm sorry to say this... but I don't think it is Hunk lol.
Jill is Masked Woman Sherry is Test Tube Girl Wesker isn't going crazy and is talking to Jill
Oh also a bodily feature the masked person if you look at the chest has a rise, while the rest of the body doesn't... yah unless it's a really strange guy... I'd say it's a woman...
Adding another thing, It's confirmed as a fact that Sherry will be in RE5, so if shes not the test tube girl, why would she be in africa... She's 22 by this time, also the fact she was with Wesker in the first place, so what other way could she enter.
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Post by programreaper on Dec 8, 2008 19:06:38 GMT -5
I do think TTG is Sherry, but I just remembered two things. One, in the August issue of GameInformer, they said something about Capcom mentioned "the Redfields", as in plural. Which brings me to my next theory, if the water is distorting hair color like Mr. Mew said with the Jill theory, who's to say it isn't Claire in the test tube. After all, Chris is in the game, and Claire has blue-ish eyes. TTG is also wearing leather, and Claire is a biker. And, that would be a way to bring in Sherry.
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Post by Lunapocalypse on Dec 8, 2008 22:24:20 GMT -5
She could enter any other way Capcom deams possible. EDIT> Checkout what I found, really cool video (what they call a 'Viral campaign' video or something?) it's got in game footage and acting in it too. From the way the story goes Chris and Sheva survived the outbreak in Africa and saved some major worldly ass. There's some ingame footage in there that I haven't seen before aswell: 1.) A rather large crocodile the likes of that from RE2 2.) Boss like enemy on a motorbike who swings and rather long chain...I can tell he's going to be a thorn in Chris' side. Here's the link anyways, I think the video looks really cool (Most likely due to real time acting). www.gametrailers.com/player/43481.html
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Post by Munz on Dec 9, 2008 15:36:40 GMT -5
oh balls you beat me to the punch on this one (i was going to post it)
but we also know that Chris AND Sheva live because this award is being given to Chris after the Kijuju incident. That's a relief, they just can't kill off the guy that started the games, and to have the game revolve around Sheva living only to have her die in the end would be pointless. The actors look pretty good as their parts, but Chris's hair is lighter and he's skinnier than in the game, but i guess we could just say that's his suit.
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Post by shenlong7 on Dec 9, 2008 21:22:59 GMT -5
You know I don't think Sherry is test tube girl because well number one, the virus is laying dormant and since he already has a sample provided by Ada he doesn't need ot kidnap Sherry, second, you have the daughter of a genius, now wasting that resource for an experiment would be stupid and Wesker knows that there is more to her than meets the eye if two top reserchers for Umbrella were her parents. Now as to how she could enter, I think people are forgetting Stolkhome Syndrome, in the amount of time she has been in Albert Wesker's hands, she could have easily been manipulated to put her mind to something. You would not go to so much trouble to pick a test subject when you could probably get an easier subject without having to bring to light the act that you have spies in the U.S. government.
Now as to the woman in the dark hood being Jill, well I saw a trailer where the masked woman gave someone the plague virus. This doesn't seem like anything Jill would do because she has shown no indications of being in league with anyone and ...this may be the most controversial bit of argumentation but I've been studying pictures and I've noticed the bust size of the cloaked figure and Jill do not match. There I said it....but the woman in the tube does match in terms of bust.
Now onto them surviving the event, well true they could have survived and be awarded, but at what cost. The ends can sometimes have a terrible means that is so sharp in its cruel appetite that it overweighs the end. If your going to give the end out just like that, you're going to have more to the ending than what we see. Don't get your hopes for a happy ending or closure because making an assumption leaves you wide open.
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Post by Lunapocalypse on Dec 9, 2008 23:31:19 GMT -5
Are you kidding me Shen? There is no way that it'd be summed up just like that. With how Chris was acting something horrible must have happened to him. There's more behind this video than what is presented if anything more than advertisement, it's also 'Episode 1' or something; so expect more.
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Post by shenlong7 on Dec 9, 2008 23:58:57 GMT -5
well Mew your mistaking me see I said to the others not to think that anything was over. If anything I was saying expect more. Anyway that was a footnote in everything I just said which is odd that I'm not called out for my breast comparison or any other things before I mentioned the last paragraph. So please people, the last one's a throw away, I don't really care about it, just that I'm accurately interpreted, so go to everything before the last paragraph to respond to me if you want to.
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Post by Aria of Souls on Dec 10, 2008 0:13:13 GMT -5
You know I don't think Sherry is test tube girl because well number one, the virus is laying dormant and since he already has a sample provided by Ada he doesn't need ot kidnap Sherry He already did kidnap her... It's a canon thing that he already did... you can't ignore that fact, What would Wesker do after kidnapping her thats my question, just let her go? I doubt that... The woman in the mask might be Sherry if not Jill, and Jill might be the one in the tube, but who knows I feel Jill and Sherry are one or the other maybe 0.0? I can just tell though that the masked lady and the test tube one are Sherry or Jill or some female character from previous RE games.
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Post by Lunapocalypse on Dec 10, 2008 0:33:28 GMT -5
Oh no Shen, I was agreeing with you that it wouldn't be over. It'd be intruiging if it lead to a follow up where Chris had to deal with his mentality as well as everything else. Still going on whether the viral campaign has any connected at all.
As for breast size...I don't know, push up bra? I didn't really care about that comment all too much, although potentially offensive towards some, but it's no different from how everyone else sums up facial features.
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