Marc Firewing
Zombie Hunter
The Chicago Typewriter
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Post by Marc Firewing on Feb 3, 2012 3:23:44 GMT -5
What would the maximum amount of weaponry a character should be able to carry at one current time? Not including LMGs or any heavy weaponry, merely Assault Rifles, sidearms, knives, sniper rifles, etc.
Averaging this out to the everyday civilian and the normal military character could pull off. Obviously carrying a lot of weaponry contributes more sound, but how much is too much?
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Post by Caliber on Feb 3, 2012 8:25:19 GMT -5
Typically, most characters like to follow a general rule of: one sidearm, one primary, one melee. However, there are times when it's necessary to change that up a bit.
Really, it mainly depends on how large your character is, and what they're wearing. People wearing large assault vests with many pockets can naturally carry more ammunition (or weaponry in general) on body. Whereas a person in a suit would have a hard time storing more than one weapon on body.
As an absolute rule, though, you probably would never want to give a character more than two primaries, and two sidearms (avoid making yourself look ridiculous by NOT dual-wielding sidearms). This is assuming that each primary and each sidearm aren't gigantic. Obviously you wouldn't want to carry two LMGs on body.
Here's an example loadout:
Primary #1: Shotgun Primary #2: Submachine Gun (or other small, automatic PDW) Sidearm: Handgun Melee: Knife
Another:
Primary: Light Machine Gun Sidearm: Handgun Melee: Hatchet
Another:
Primary: Assault Rifle Sidearm #1: Handgun Sidearm #2: (Typically Smaller) Handgun (For use when first sidearm fails)
You see where I'm going with this? The bigger the weapons you intend to carry, the LESS your character will be able to realistically carry. There is no real formula for this sort of thing, really. If it feels like too much, then it probably is too much.
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Post by Winters on Feb 3, 2012 17:32:19 GMT -5
Common sense + size of character = answer
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Post by Caliber on Feb 3, 2012 17:53:51 GMT -5
Common sense + size of character = answer Basically.
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Post by Scorpio on Feb 22, 2012 14:55:36 GMT -5
As a fan of retro, I'm wondering if any of the gunners here can suggest a real life equivalent to this bad boy used by one of the baddest dudes in fiction getasword.com/marvel/1219-nick-fury-electronic-needle-gun.htmlFirst thought was a wildey .475 but I'd prefer something a little less overkill if possible. Gracias for any responses.
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Post by KR0R1C on Feb 22, 2012 15:28:40 GMT -5
Maybe something like this thing that Caliber made? I stole this pic from the art thread. The original on the right is the Luger P08. Maybe that could be an option for you.
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Post by Winters on Feb 22, 2012 15:43:08 GMT -5
Luger P08. Fires 9mm, but that was over 100 years ago. Might still get working copies today, albeit not for combat use, unless you worked at it yourself. Skittles might know something I dont, but its definitely a Luger model, got the style. Unless your looking for a gun that shoots needles..... On the off chance, you can rig one of those up yourself, hit me up in msn and ill tell ya what you need.
Edit: Kroric jumped in before me when I posted, lmfao. What he said, Luger.
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Post by Caliber on Feb 22, 2012 17:42:40 GMT -5
As a fan of retro, I'm wondering if any of the gunners here can suggest a real life equivalent to this bad boy used by one of the baddest dudes in fiction getasword.com/marvel/1219-nick-fury-electronic-needle-gun.htmlFirst thought was a wildey .475 but I'd prefer something a little less overkill if possible. Gracias for any responses. There are several pistols of rather similar design. To start, as posted above, you've got the Luger P08. It was chambered in three calibers-- the weak, old, and useless 7.62x51mm Parabellum; the common, modern, semi-powerful 9x19mm Parabellum; and the common, powerful .45 ACP (though, Lugers chambered in .45 ACP are INCREDIBLY rare) Most Lugers found in this age would be better off kept as a collector's piece. They will work just fine in battle, but they certainly aren't the most practical thing around. However, DO NOT let this deter you from using one. I currently have a character who uses the bottom Luger from the picture above (I designed it in photoshop specifically for her, please refrain from using that image). A more modern adaptation of the Luger-esque design would be the Ruger MK I/II/III pistol, which is chambered for the relatively low-power, but VERY cheap and light .22LR round. A final option that I can think of is the Beretta U22 Neos. It looks fairly futuristic, and also carries a Ruger/Luger-esque air in the design. It's also chambered in .22LR.
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Post by Winters on Feb 28, 2012 15:45:52 GMT -5
What are some of the most common types of ammunition somebody might find during a zombie apocalypse? In Resident Evil, the 9mm bullets are found in household closest, medical drawers, and even in bathroom stalls. Is there some ammunition types that would be much harder to find than others? EG. the 5.7 round versus a 5.56 round
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Post by KR0R1C on Feb 28, 2012 17:11:42 GMT -5
Well it would kinda be area specific but some common rounds would be like 9mm, .45, .22, 7.62x39, and maybe .223(5.56mm). I'd say 7.62 would be your most common rifle round in the worldwide spectrum. As for pistols I'd guess its fairly well split between the 9 and the 45.
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Post by Mikey on Feb 28, 2012 18:51:21 GMT -5
That is a hard thing to gauge. If you go to a gun store, or even a Wal Mart or K Mart, you can find just about any round you need. From .22 LR to .50 AE and beyond. If you were getting some ammo off a dead guy, it would all depend on what weapon he had.
By the same token, the more common rounds would probably be less common because they are looted by more people, at the beginning of an outbreak when such things are going to happen en mass. How many .223 rifles are in America alone? Thousands, maybe tens of thousands. How many 9x19mm handguns? Hundreds of thousands. Twelve gauge shotguns? Also hundreds of thousands. Your damned if you have an uncommon caliber weapon, and your damned if you have a very common caliber.
We'll say the Walking Dead type of situation, where everyone but one percent or less of the population is already dead. Picking up rounds and weapons on dead bodies would be a very common thing. By the way, what I find funny about that show is that their in the South, but they can't find guns and ammo? You can't walk down the street in the south without tripping over a gun. Anyway, in that situation, you would find a lot of common rounds. 9x19, .45 ACP, .38, .357 Magnum, .44 Magnum, twelve and twenty gauge shotgun shells, .223/5.56, a whole lot of .308 and maybe some Russian stock 7.62x39 that people ship in. Those rounds, you can pretty much expect to be tripping over. You would end up having to leave some behind, because you have a surplus.
In short, if you can last past the initial chaos of the outbreak, you would pretty much have infinite ammo. If you have an uncommon gun, stick to gun shops and the like. A common gun, you might get lucky at a gun shop, but you would have more luck taking from the recently deceased survivors.
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Post by Caliber on Mar 3, 2012 19:11:30 GMT -5
Mikey pretty much covered everything perfectly, but, more specifically directed at what you're thinking of Joey...
The AR-15 (5.56x45) versus that AR-57 (5.7x28) that we were talking about the other day.
5.7x28 is definitely the less common round, and would be much harder to find. The thing is, like Mikey said, were you to find a stash of the stuff... there'd be a lot of it, for two reasons. The first reason being that there aren't more than a handful of weapons in the world chambered for the thing. The second reason being that the fahker is very small, and a lot of them can fit in a box.
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Post by Dr.MadMan on Mar 3, 2012 21:22:24 GMT -5
I'm aware i criticized this thread in a less than friendly way,however a question popped up and i'm here so...does every individual round have it's own machine to make it or can certain ones be modified to make other rounds?
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Post by Mikey on Mar 4, 2012 4:13:49 GMT -5
When you say make, do you mean manufacture rounds from scratch? Or do you mean reloadig empty casings you have around? Either way, I can answer that.
If you mean reloading rounds, then the answer varies on the type of press you have. Sometimes you can find handtools to do the job, sometimes you can get full reloaders. Either way, it all depends on the brand. Some can reload most, if not all, handgun calibers and some rifle calibers. Others can do all rifle calibers, but no handgun calibers. It all depends on your press.
If your talking about manufacturing new rounds, then yes, each caliber has it's own set of equipment. Casings and bullets have to be formed from raw brass, lead, and copper. They have to be perfect, or you have a catastrophic malfunction on your hands. That's when your gun blows up in your hands, FYI. So yes, each type of round needs their own set of molding equipment. No amount of modifying will attain the perfect results that are needed.
If I haven't covered your question, please come back and word it more clearly. Cal and I had to talk about what exactly it was you wanted to know.
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Post by Dr.MadMan on Mar 5, 2012 0:21:53 GMT -5
You answered my question just fine thank you.
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