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Post by InsanityIsCool on Jun 13, 2013 14:53:50 GMT -5
Im sure everyone has thought of it.
"if a zombie apocalypse occured, what weapons would I take?"
I was thinking up a character profile for a civilian survivor when i asked myself that question. It got me thinking, why not post a thread so people could look at other peoples idea's, talk about it, compare whats practical and whats impractical for a person depending on their location and style of fighting.
so, here it is.
I personally would take :
A Kukri knife because it has the finesse of a knife and the hitting power of an axe, easy to cleave skulls and lop off heads with and is also a utility knife usefull for cutting wood and skinning animals.
A Glock 22 pistol because its the standard armament for police officers in Australia. every cop has this pistol and 3 magazines of 15 rounds of its ammo, .40S&W.
A Remington 700 police issue, Id use this because its accurate, easy to clean, hard hitting and its ammunition, .308 nato, is very available in gun shops over here. plus the ability to take out threats from a distance is a bonus.
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Post by Winters on Jun 13, 2013 19:42:38 GMT -5
Kukri, for sure. Almost a must have. Its light, easy to maintain, and enough to deal damage in close range. But for a really low key, zero strain combat tool, my crossbow. I dont think I even need to explain this one.
But the real tool I have always had in mind was my SKS, a Semi-Automatic Carbine. Easy to reload, with the plenty of stripper clips, which are easy to load themselves. Its got all the range youd need, cause if its THAT far away, no need to shoot at it, your at a safe enough distance. The SKS can deal damage close, mid, and Long range. Long range if you really needed to make that sort of shot, you could even with just the irons. A shot to the head will do it 100% of the time. Ammo is easy to get here. Suppressors are easy to make, too. Oh, and its got a bayonette, so, yeah. Thats my tool.
For dealing with hoards, I would easily go with creating IED's from stuff you find in a laundry room and garage. Something simple that does boom, rigged up to a box mine of sorts, thats loaded with various nuts and bolts, youd be able to rip groups to shreds in a couple of hours with strategic placement. Mind you, I dont have a whole lot of people here in my province, and I live on an island, so clearing out the infection here would only take me a few months at most.
Great thread, by the way. Though, I can chat for days about my zombie plan. Survival junkie in general, ready for whatevers thrown at me.
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Post by InsanityIsCool on Jun 13, 2013 21:08:14 GMT -5
IED's, didnt even think of that, nice. I live in suburbs but also sort of rural because of the huge amounts of bushland. I also live within easy driving range of 2 army bases and im within walking distance to 2 gas stations and a automotive store. A silenced sub-machinegun set for semi-auto would be good because of the extra-stability along with a pistol rould being easy to silence. Nice choice for SKS, what about an m14 with an acog and bayonet?
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Post by Winters on Jun 14, 2013 6:41:35 GMT -5
[Sorry for the long post. Wait, no im not, its gonna save your life someday!]
Any reliable Semi-Automaic Carbine would be a nice addition, I just went with the SKS cause I know its a very, very common 7.62 chambered rifle here, along with a high enough rate of fire to get yourself out of a camp. With the right aiming, you can have eight of them down in eight seconds, then take four for a reload. This is at medium range where your not in any immediate danger. If your going with an SMG though, youd have to be pretty close, cause theyre not as accurate as a rifle. Even the more popular/common ones, like the MP5 are designed for close quarters. Great though, and theyd work like a charm in close quarters, but theyre heavy enough.
Just take a .22 rimfire pistol. LOADS AND LOADS of ammo for that. Up close and personal replacement for a machete, little to no effort, and theyre already pretty quiet. So with a suppressor, depending on the quality you make, would be ideal for close range. So long as you shoot through the eye TOWARDS the brain, or focus a good two shots at the same spot with a hollow point round, youd take it down immediately. Little to no recoil on them, so you can fire with one hand at any angel without any risk. Just food for thought, ive been ready for this whole zombie apocalypse thing for a long time now, hahaha.
ACOG would be helpful, but those sort of attachment arent required. Just more maintainance on your gun. On top of cleaning the weapon itself everyday, youd have to be adjusting the scope, cause theyre not designed to be moving around out in the field for months at a time. Its and assist for long range combat. You can get the same effect with the irons. If something is that far away, leave it be, or let it come to you, and take it out with a shot thats going to be a kill 100% of the time. The father away you are, the more chance your gonna miss, and waste even just a few shots a day. Unless your some marksman, but thats just bragging rights, were killing zombies. Whether you kill fifteen of them up close, or fifteen of them without getting up from your campsite, fifteen zombies are dead. Id rather be up close, because you have no chance of missing so long as your even just an intermidiate shooter.
People will always say, guns are for last resort. They should be, but if you can make them quiet, then it gets put ahead of a machete for sure. Most of them are good for ten to fifteen shots, which is more than enough to get by whatever you wanna get by without alerting anymore toward you. But say your just out to thin them down, dont even need to be quiet. Have them all come to you. Trained snipers in the military enjoy targets who are coming straight toward them, in alleyways and other choke points. Because you know where the target is going to be, a little more predictable. Good thing about zombies? All of the ones your shooting at will be coming straight toward you, anywhere, no choke point required. Open field, straight toward you. All you have to do it aim, shoot, repeat. So long as you have enough ammo, or an escape strategy.
Still, when all is said and done. A semi-automatic carbine, with a bayonet. Makes me hard just thinking about its potential, and how available it is no matter what country your from. Unless your from England, cause well, lets face it, your gonna have a bigger problem on your hands if your from England. Gonna be thousands and thousands more zombies, for the fact that thousands and thousands less people are going to be shooting at them. In America and Canada, if just 50% of the population killed a single zombie each day, thats effectively reducing the zed count down dramatically. The lower that percentage, the higher zed count remains. This can be applied to anything, guns or otherwise. Just think about it. 200 people in your town. 25 of them are killing zombies. They only each need to kill a couple in order to clean up the town, right? So long as you have enough manpower, you can get rid of the threat faster than people think. Which is why I estimate my clear time at a month, less because im going to be killing a lot more than just one every day.
At the same time, you gotta take into consideration the people around you that arent going to be killing zombies, and are going to be just hiding in their houses, or killing other people for food and other resources. Your gonna have to watch out for people, on top of zombies. Which is very unfortunate, considering if they knew exactly how quick we could get back to out daily life if they just worked together, they would cooperate. Believe it or not, this isnt even in the zombie survival handbook, and I think it should be. The biggest thing thats going to decide whether or not you live or survive is the population you live in, or are surviving in. Thats one of the largest factors, not your skill level at killing zombies.
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Post by InsanityIsCool on Jun 16, 2013 12:57:04 GMT -5
... you really are a z-apocalypse nut arent you.
GOOD!
I personally wouldnt go for .22 because with them shuffling around and their heads bobbing and swaying and such, the eyes would be a difficult shot under pressure. a .40S&W would bust through a head easily, plus it would be easier to find over here.
your right about the ACOG sight not really being needed, tritium night sights would be a much better attachment.
An assault rifle on full auto is as we both know, stupid and a waste of bullets, however a civilian model would be made for semi-auto only, so that would be usefull. a semi-auto AK or any reliable civilian model assault rifle would be good.
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Post by Winters on Jun 17, 2013 5:18:39 GMT -5
.40 over there more common then .22lr? Wow, well, go for whatever is more common, then. The most common round of ammunition in a given area should be your "cleaning ammo". But hey, youd be surprised about hitting an eye up close. Point blank range, you never miss. I myself personally, though, wouldnt be under any sort of pressure. I would be the happiest person alive. Thats just me.
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Post by InsanityIsCool on Jun 17, 2013 11:48:24 GMT -5
.40 S&W would be easier to find initially because its the standard armament for cops over here. later on it may be more dificult to find pistol ammo of any kind because we have gun laws that allow pistols to be owned only in certain circumstances, such as if your a cripple and your looking at either target shooting or home defence, ... not too sure about the home defence though, the only gun licences ive seen over here are hunting and target shooting. the main guns over here are shotguns or rifles. the only place i could think of for pistol ammo stashes are police station armouries, gun clubs and army barracks armouries, pistol ammunition might be rarer in hunting stores and gunshops. seriously, Ive been in 3 hunting and gun stores over here and ive seen more crossbows than pistols.
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Post by Winters on Jun 17, 2013 14:07:30 GMT -5
Wow. Not here. We have little to no laws. If its a rifle or shotgun, you dont even need paperwork for it. Same with ammo, you buy ammo by showing your ID card saying your over 16 or something. People always though that Canada was strict on them, unlike the USA, but its not nearly at all. We just dont broadcast out gun related crime like the USA does... But it happens, everywhere.
So zombies are gonners. Simple.
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Post by InsanityIsCool on Jun 20, 2013 21:19:35 GMT -5
yeah, gun violence is everywhere. so you live on an island huh, it would be easy for you if an outbreak occurs then. australia is with the exception of tasmania and a few tiny islands, a single landmass country. populations over here arent spread widely. huge areas of Australia are empty, we mainly stick close to the coastal areas with places getting fewer and farther between the more inland you go. as well, to simply survive in this country, you have to be prepared for any kind of weather. anything can happen; dust storms, hail, floods, bushfires, long-term droughts, freak lightning storms, hurricanes, landslides and more, and all thats happened in just my 21 years. as well, this country has to my knowledge almost every kind of landscape and terrain type with the exception of a permafrost area. so in this country you would have to choose a gun that reeks reliability in a wide variety of terrain. if its ammo is easy to get over here, i would take an AK in a second.
what kind of terrain do you have?
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Post by Winters on Jun 21, 2013 6:15:14 GMT -5
This. Everywhere. Attachments:
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Post by InsanityIsCool on Jun 21, 2013 8:38:59 GMT -5
looks nice
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Falar
Zombie Hunter
If you hold on tightly, you may lose all hope without knowing.
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Post by Falar on Jul 18, 2013 21:04:59 GMT -5
Kukri knife is an interesting choice, not what I'd go for personally, but I've nothing against it.
Most common ammunitions around where I'm at would be 9mm and .22 followed by .45 and a few others. That said I'd prefer having an AR-15 Rifle, Remmington Shotgun, and a standard 9mm pistol, the exact model isn't exactly an issue for me, though once I get to pick, if I get to, I'll go for one I've either researched or know is better than the others.
A simple spear or staff would be a good utility tool when not used as a weapon. I have several knifes for small areas.
I take it you have a bug-out bag Winters?
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Post by Winters on Jul 19, 2013 22:40:41 GMT -5
Bug out bag for anything, not just zombies.
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Post by InsanityIsCool on Jul 20, 2013 2:50:24 GMT -5
a bug out bag's always a good thing to have.
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Falar
Zombie Hunter
If you hold on tightly, you may lose all hope without knowing.
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Post by Falar on Jul 24, 2013 13:39:45 GMT -5
Of course its for anything, wouldn't be much of one if it was for one thing exclusively.
Pre-made or custom collected bag?
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